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 Post subject: Refuting allegations against Quran and sunnah
PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:11 pm 
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As-Salamo Alaykom,

Some ignorant people try to discredit the Quran and Sunnah by presenting false claims, in this thread I will present some of them and refute them.

They say that the Quran says the sun sets in a spring of black muddy water and they quote the verse:

18:86. Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."

The problem isn't that the Quran is contradicting science, rather English language contradicts science! In English there is no scientifically correct expression for sunset or sunrise! In Arabic the word west has a verb form but in English there isn't such verb, so to correctly translate the meaning of the verse, we should add a 'westing' verb to English and use it:

18:86. Until, when he reached the westing of the sun, he found it westing in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."

Now we see that the verse doesn't contradict science and only says that Dhul-Qarnain reached the west at the time of sunset.


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After being hopeless of finding contradictions in the Quran, they start quoting from the sunnah...

They say that Muhammad (peace be upon him) prescribed the urine of camel as medicine and they make fun of that!

What they don't know is that urine is in fact used as medicine in modern science! It is called 'premarin' and used in many drugs especially for women.

Pregnant mare urine is the source of conjugated equine estrogens and has been marketed for over fifty years as the pharmaceutical brand Premarin, "an estrogen treatment for menopausal and premenopausal women" especially postpartum - one of the most prescribed drugs in the United States.

For more information see:
Effect of camel urine on the cytological and biochemical changes induced by cyclophosphamide in mice
Camel Milk And Urine Hadiths


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They would also mention the Hadeeth of the fly and say there is no cure on a fly's wing:

If a fly falls into one of your containers [of food or drink], immerse it completely before removing it, for under one of its wings there is venom and under another there is (its) antidote.

What they don't know is that the fly carries Bacteriophage (bacteria killer) on its wings:

BACTERIOPHAGE ISOLATED FROM THE COMMON HOUSE FLY (MUSCA DOMESTICA) by Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research New York
The fly carries a disease and the cure on both its wings: Mentioned in Islam and confirmed by Science (Bacteriophages)
Hadiths Of The Fly (Bacteriophages)


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Western people don't like the prophet's marriage to a young girl, they quote the following Hadeeth:

Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
[Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64]

It only sounds bad to western people, but they have to understand other cultures, in US it is really bad for first cousins to get married but in other cultures that is more than normal.

Islam didn't come to satisfy western people, it is Allah's ruling, some of it they might not like but many they do. Western media focuses always on things that western people see very wrong, like this issue. They should ask themselves what do they know about Islam and judge for themselves whether they like it or not, I am sure that they will find most of it negative because that's what western media focuses on.

Whether they like it or not, in Islam it is ok for babies to get married and that is normal in many cultures, you find babies married even before their birth, but they have the option after growing up to nullify their marriages. They can have intercourse if their size is big enough for that; it is not required for them to reach the age of puberty.

Muhammad (peace be upon him) did marry a young girl and that was normal at his time for his people, no one has ever condemned him for this behavior at his time, however now western media focuses on this issue because to western people this is very wrong.

In Islam it is permissible to marry young girls but it is NOT a must, likewise in Islam it is permissible to practice polygamy and marry your first cousin although in the west these are condemned.

You see, we won't change Islam to satisfy the west or anyone else, the rulings of Islam are reserved as they are, what you see wrong today, later people will see right but in all cases Islamic rulings won't change, except in the areas where Islam allows changes.


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